Pope says he and cardinals are all sinners
Francis says Catholic Church is holy, but humans have sins02 October, 14:45
The Church itself is holy, but it is "made up of sinners" because it is made of humans, Francis said during his weekly general audience in St. Peter's Square.
More than 45,000 people crowded into the square under warm, sunny skies to hear the pope ask how the Church can be good when "its path through the centuries has been full of difficulties, problems, dark moments...how can it be a holy Church made of sinful men, sinful women, sinful priests, nuns, bishops, cardinals, popes?" The answer, Francis concluded, is that because God created the Church, it was made holy.
"The Church is holy because it proceeds from a God who is faithful and never abandoned (humans)...to the power of evil".